Monday, April 13, 2009

279. White House Seder



The seder at the White House used Hagaddahs printed by Maxwell House coffee. I read some comment that the White House could certaintly get something nicer. I disagree. I think the Maxwell House Hagaddahs are an American minhag. Lots of American Jews, myself included, grew up with them. The covers changed over the years; the ones we used were red and yellow.

Comments:
They must'a picked them up for free at Shoprite!
 
Anonymous above:

I thought it was Waldbaums! (Did the stores even make sure you bought enough coffee to get the Hagaddahs?)
 
No Waldbaum's here in the 'burbs; it's just not the same as Brooklyn. Then again, Brooklyn is no longer the same as Brooklyn. When I moved across the river, at Pesach time a customer quipped to the checkout girl "I guess we can tell he's not Irish Catholic." I remind myself frequently: Welcome to Kansas.
 
Next Seder they should use one created by Rabbi Kahane...*smile*

Judith
 
It clearly states in Torah that a non-Jew will *not* be included in the seder. Modern rabbis tell us it's "OK" for shalom biet (peace in the house). While Moslems are monotheists, to have a seder lead by one is wrong; if Obama claims he's not a Moslem, even worse.
Jews who participated in this farce must be ignorant of the Torah.
 
Were there any Jews at the Seder?
 
To Northernmost Jew

Obama Passover Seder UPDATE: Photo, Guest List, Menu
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/09/obama-passover-seder-gues_n_185034.html
"Others in the exclusive group included Michelle Obama's counsel and friend Susan Sher; Herbie Ziskend, a staff assistant to Vice President Joe Biden's policy and economic advisers; and White House deputy director of advance and special events Lisa Kohnke" - names that **suggest** a **Jewish connection** (in other words, this scrivener can't confirm their religion).


Obama hosts a Seder: Who was invited?
http://articles.latimes.com/2009/apr/10/nation/na-white-house-seder10
... and a few who did **not** attend and the notation that (emphasis mine)
"The Seder served a **kosher-style** spread including matzo, bitter herbs, a roasted egg and greens in the White House's old family dining room"

If a non-Jew wants to host/attend a seder, let it be a "mock" (practice) seder a couple of days prior to the actual seder. (Reason for two or more days: Matzah is [rabbincally] forbidden on the day before Pesach to make it "special" on at least the first night.) Mock seders are common in Jewish Community Day Schools so the students will know & understand the generics of the seder; the specifics vary by community (e.g., North African seders are different that Eastern European seders, but all are valid).

Because of the Torah prohibition (Shemot/Exodus 12 43:50) against a non-Jew (no-kare) at the seder, the hagadah's instruction to "let all who are hungry partake of the seder" is applicable only to Jews. That does NOT mean Jews should not feed the hungry; they should, just not at the seder.

BTW, I almost ended up ion Kenai "back in the day."

Yohanon.Glenn at gmail dot com
 
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